Comments on The LOST ARGs: The 14th Poster Roundup

Despite the new posts, I have to say that tickle ...

2009-11-22T08:24:48.875-05:00

Despite the new posts,

I have to say that tickle me elmo, beanie babies, and furbies are really not apt comparisons to this LFA

They are not art. Art is different. They also were not produced in such limited numbers. People will not be pulling out their copies of the elmo dvd's to rewatch back to back and show their friends that missed it, or to find details that they missed.

Lost like the Prisoner has staying power. it will be rewatched and discussed 30 years from now, only unlike the prisoner, it will have 16 limited pieces of art, books, and collectibles that will still be around too. Although I do think an original prisoner lunchbox out grab a tidy sum.

well, I missed most of the posting because I was c...

2009-11-22T08:06:30.645-05:00

well, I missed most of the posting because I was cooking for thanksgiving which were having today. Anyway... I have been here for this ARG since the beginning here at the Lost Arg but just watched without writing for a few posters since I didn't like them. I'm one of the few that is only buying the posters I like to hang on my wall, not buying them all. I mean who would I show them all too, my lost friends are here, not in the neighborhood. I sell Lost things on my web site and it's certainly not to the neighbors. I think I have found one person that will talk lost here in town, that's it. I enjoy the posters I got- the Van and the Barracks and they will hang in my home. I played the OGR as well, I'm better known as Maladylis on all the other forums and was #2 in that ARG with Bad Number being #1 I found that one fun as well but I do them for my enjoyment.
I agree some are finding this like Tickle me Elmo, good comparison lol
I'm afraid that people will find, when this is done, they have 16 posters that we have all seen and no one cares anymore. Just like no one cares I was #2 in the ORG lol It was fun while it lasted and I hope for the people that bought them all that they can enjoy them on the walls instead of in a portfolio that sits in the corner to be pulled out now and then. I haven't opened my portfolio in years, hope yours gets more action than that.

Right, now for your mornings entertainment two NEW...

2009-11-22T04:20:02.052-05:00

Right, now for your mornings entertainment two NEW POST's !

Kiwilostie, no problem with your post above it is ...

2009-11-22T04:07:33.632-05:00

Kiwilostie, no problem with your post above it is still just speculation at this point.

To JPL, and all the other kind people that have sent very nice comments, it has been a pleasure to put something back into the Lost Fan community over the last year or so.

2009-11-22T04:07:03.709-05:00

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Right, and I'd agree Scott. I hadn't read...

2009-11-22T03:50:09.318-05:00

Right, and I'd agree Scott.

I hadn't read through all the comments, but have now....

And I'd also second Brendan's remarks. This is a viral project, just as the Octagon Recruitment one was. That one was a failure by our standards, yes... but at the same time it won an emmy... and I wouldn't be surprised if this too took an emmy.

When they submit the package for nominations none of the bad experiences will be a part of that... but a blog with hundreds of comments per entry, the # of views on various forums, etc. will all contribute to the argument that they produced a successful viral campaign. That's how Hoodlum won this year. Despite it sucking they had tons of numbers they could point to for it being followed heavily.

This is 100% a marketing effort for Lost. It likely goes right back to Mike Benson or ABCs marketing division, which outsourced to Gallery 1988 to set up the series, who outsourced Go Merch to deal with the transactions.

This is far more successful than previous "ARGs" because it has brought in a large number of people who are not already part of the online fanbase surrounding Lost.

Now, leaving all that aside, I appreciate the shout out Milo. Though it wasn't my intention to make a stand on EB with that post... and while the "art douchies" can be sarcastic and snide at times, they are all really a bunch of teddy bears and aren't doing anyone any harm. I think the reason they dislike you so much has to do with the fake url/site you created.

As for being a staple vs. being a "lost-poster-crazy." Well, there's a huge gap in between.. one that I'm in imo. I was just trying to point out the extremes.

[i]Amy Lynn said... It isn't JUST those fans who've been around for years and years that have a sense of humor.[/i]

I know you've got a sense of humor, and I didn't intend to single you out as not being able to have a laugh, so I'm sorry you took it that way.

I feel like people are missing out on what the app...

2009-11-22T02:40:48.582-05:00

I feel like people are missing out on what the appreciation part of this event actually is. It's the fact these posters are available at all not that they should be easy to get. This event is huge. Far larger than I think some people realize. Getting 16 artists to all do a print for the series and then organizing a unique event for each is a massive fan event that surpasses any other I can think of. In my opinion we have blown it out of proportion.

I don't mean to offend anyone here at all but I don't feel like it's totally reasonable to expect to get every poster or even many of them. This event was not designed like that. The posters are made available and you get a shot to get one. It is not designed that people will be able to buy one of each and it's not supposed to be designed that way. The reason you can't easily get every poster you want is that's not the point of this whole event. The point was to commission 16 works of art and make them available in a very unique and exciting way. I feel they have done an amazing job and I really appreciate it.

While I understand the frustration in not getting a print (I have been unable to get a copy of my favorite so far) I don't feel like it's the getting of these prints that is the amazing part, rather the whole event itself. This is just my view on the topic but I feel we've become too expectant and lost sight of what this is really about. It was never about getting every print or even any particular one, some people won't be lucky to get one at all. It was about all the hard work that went into making them available at all and I for one am very thankful for it.

Ob, thanks for the vintage dharma ad links - very ...

2009-11-22T02:24:34.765-05:00

Ob, thanks for the vintage dharma ad links - very cool.
Oh yeah 200 posts!...

Ugh, typos galore... must be late!

2009-11-22T01:53:15.227-05:00

Ugh, typos galore... must be late!

So...Zort feel free to delete this if you wish... ...

2009-11-22T01:51:48.943-05:00

So...Zort feel free to delete this if you wish...
Does this make the last 2 prints Jay Ryan and Sheppard Fairey? If that pans out, we all must realise that there would be a massive 'artists fanbase' going for the prints as well as us.
would have been neat if this whole thing had been more along the lines of "Butch from North Dakota, for The Hatch, or Capcom, for 'The Love Tringle' etc, or something...

Ob, Im still wondering why they went with a 'n...

2009-11-22T01:40:17.595-05:00

Ob, Im still wondering why they went with a 'new' URL last week. I figured that was the end of those URL's, but this week they go back to the original list?
Cant figure that one...

Just got through all the comments. Here's my t...

2009-11-22T01:23:44.650-05:00

Just got through all the comments. Here's my take on my time here:

I've been here since TLE and a LOST fan since the second half of season 1. Though I don't really say much in the comments (because the people in here are extremely smart and take words right out of my mouth :) ), I feel like this community is a "second home". Its certainly the first thing i check when i'm near a computer. LOST to me is more than a show, more than an ARG and more than an obsession. Its a part of my life.

I don't think anything will ever live up to the first and only TLE. Find 815 was too produced and OGR was a great idea that went south. This "Appreciation event" i think has exceeded the original intentions of the creator and GoMerch. BUT after all is said and done i love the 3 prints i have. They were hard fought, and i realistically don't see myself being able to get any of the last 2. Its the nature of the beast, a beast we can't help but love.

Hmmm I guess I didn't know that the 1st URL wa...

2009-11-22T00:50:10.230-05:00

Hmmm I guess I didn't know that the 1st URL wasn't registered to ABC. The whois info also says it ActuallyItsKetchup.com was created on 8.13.09.

The Duval print -- didyouburyit.com was created 6.09.09.

All of the rest were created 5.12.09.

Not sure if any of that means anything except that the 1st URL was created/registered just before the first frame went live. Probably to keep us from searching out a list of URLs, though that's happened afterward.

hi everyone! :) I just read through hundreds of co...

2009-11-22T00:49:47.234-05:00

hi everyone! :)
I just read through hundreds of comments and it was wonderful!

I am new here in the sense that I have never really 'followed' LOST as most of you have. It's actually only been a year since my first episode, but that doesn't mean I am any less of a fan. I only found LostARGs because someone posted a link from the early days of damoncarltonandapolarbear.com when Paul was behind it. Anyways, I love it here. I have met several wonderful people who I will always have something in common with. And I will always stick to the theme of this ARG where 'there is no alternate reality. There is just reality.' I think that Damon & Carlton are doing a great job showing us the realities of this show & how it can impact our lives.

:)

ChrisL, spot on mate! No way these are 'just p...

2009-11-22T00:05:15.377-05:00

ChrisL, spot on mate! No way these are 'just posters'. Thats the difference for me as a fan.

Never too interested in Surrealism myself but I wa...

2009-11-21T23:43:13.383-05:00

Never too interested in Surrealism myself but I was fascinated by how Simkin is using gemstones as motifs & pairing them with some creepy crawly... which coincidentally is also one of the trends in jewellery design in recent years.
And there seems to be a relationship between a painting's saleability and the amount of gemstones/pearls within the painting itself. Interesting... :)

ObFuSc8: Ah yes thanks, the UK firm that produced TLE was Hi-ReS. I was never very good with the names lol.

And yeah Javier was involved, that's why TLE is the only one that had the most back-stories, which many are still considered as canon.
Many of us actually had some levels of interaction with Javier during as well as after TLE through email, phones & forum posts. So I remember him, but couldn't remember Hi-ReS. :P

Ok I remember now-- unlike the rest of the url, the 1st url ActuallyItsKetchup was registered by a LA web designer ( http://ali-n.com/ ) whose porfolio included the website for Talib Kweli. And if I remembered correctly Kweli's ads was constantly popping up on the SubLymonal site during TLE (those ads annoyed the hell out of me).

I know DCaaPB looked simple enough for any amateur to maintain. But surely there was some professional to help Tyson or Jensen or whoever when needed?
Not that it's of any importance. Just the mention of 42 Entertainment specialising in ARG made me wonder...
And thanks for looking up Lostpedia!

2009-11-21T23:40:30.859-05:00

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OK, now reading what Lostpedia has, TLE website we...

2009-11-21T23:12:17.837-05:00

OK, now reading what Lostpedia has, TLE website were all designed by Hi-ReS, but they actually had writers that wrote a plot of sorts?
Lostpedia lists Jordan Rosenberg with Javier Grillo-Marxuach having had some input.

Found the link to Hi-ReS wesite...on Lostpedia of ...

2009-11-21T23:08:39.254-05:00

Found the link to Hi-ReS wesite...on Lostpedia of course!

http://www.hi-res.net/

Duh, sorry justanothersky, sometime I read too muc...

2009-11-21T23:05:36.830-05:00

Duh, sorry justanothersky, sometime I read too much into posts!

Not sure, I should look this up, but I think Hi-ReS was the UK co that produced TLE. I think DIR/OGR was also Hoodlum.

"I would like to add that both the "So y...

2009-11-21T23:02:24.688-05:00

"I would like to add that both the "So you think you can dance" and the "cougar town" ARGs blow..."

too funny, Rev! :)

I don't know about 1988..but I sure would like...

2009-11-21T22:38:11.039-05:00

I don't know about 1988..but I sure would like to see Simkin in one of these last two frames. His work is " Imagination Accessed" on display! Yea, the stuff of dreams..Surrealism Lives On! WHOOOWWEEE!

There have been so many mistakes.. it would be a daunting task just to figure out which ones are involved in the puzzle and which ones aren't.

ObFuSc8: I was only joking when suggesting 42 Ente...

2009-11-21T22:29:42.687-05:00

ObFuSc8: I was only joking when suggesting 42 Entertainment might be involved in DCaaPB. :)
But I'd expect that they might be involved in LU, or at least part of it.

And oh no, I didn't suggest that you think that article might be the key to solve puzzle within DCaaPB. But I am. It reads to me like a hint to solve the DCaaPB as the puzzles sounded very similar. Sorry if I wasn't clear in my previous post.

To be off-topic for a moment here: you might know this already but the maker of TLE was a British firm. I had the link to their site on another laptop which is not here with me. So can't provide any more info on that. Find815 was by Aussie firm, Hoodlum.
I remember later there were rather vague clues suggesting DWY/OGR was created by a US firm in LA, or the LA branch of Hoodlum... don't know which was true as I didn't follow up on that. Do you know which firm was it?

LT -- from what I have heard so far, once they cho...

2009-11-21T22:22:28.724-05:00

LT -- from what I have heard so far, once they chose the artists, the artist was assigned a WCM. It seems it was up to the artist to take it from there. Each of these artists are LOST fans, but I guess they to vary in their "level of immersion" (to use 42 E's example) Casual/Active/Enthusiast.

Danger said he rewatched the ENTIRE series, over about 2 weeks looking for all shots of Jacobs Cabin, finding only one clear scene which showed the front. He extrapolated the rest.

I would guess that other artists may have watched episodes, found screencaps the same way we do -- online.

Thanks for putting up that link justanothersky. I&...

2009-11-21T22:06:43.952-05:00

Thanks for putting up that link justanothersky. I'm not taking that article as the key to solving a puzzle within DCaaPB. Just that 42 E's productions are much more like TLE, and Jensen's a bit simpler.